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#1 FlameChocobo

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Posted 01 June 2008 - 09:00 PM

One time, after I reached level 32 on my hybrid. I was training on her until the spearman comes. He starts kill stealing me. I asked him to change channels. He ignores and I asked again. He tells me that he doesn't speak English in Spanish, and he proceeds to KS me. I get angry and tell him to change channel, yet, He doesn't know my language and keeps kill stealing me. I reported him for harassment after I took a screen shot.

Another Newbie Question: Do I have to report him for violation of TOS before taking a Screen Shot?

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Reported for: Kill Stealing

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And another question!: Do you have to place smugglers on Maple Noobs? Because smuggling is against ToS.

#2 Analogué

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Posted 01 June 2008 - 09:08 PM

I don't see any racism in there, so that's one thing tongue.gif

How exactly were you telling him to CC? I mean, there's some pretty standard internationally used abbreviations out there...

#3 ArcaneWolf

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Posted 01 June 2008 - 09:39 PM

Haha! Here, whisper "WinterMagick" And tell her I asked you to ask her to ks the noob if he kses you again biggrin.gif

#4 FlameChocobo

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Posted 01 June 2008 - 09:49 PM

I wasn't using abbreviations. I told him to change channels (I slightly use abbreviations because I prefer long terms). He still doesn't listen, because he doesn't listen to anyone that speaks English. I do want to play with foreigners that do speak English (unless I speak Japanese). Not those immature foreigners that doesn't. People that do not understand English ignore what I say, and kill steal me. Yes, I say "Change channels please" while I train when someone comes into a map I'm at, because they will refuse to give me their Credit Card. I don't typ3 lyk3 dis. I type normally. If I tell them "ccplz" (Which I don't). people will think I'm rude.

#5 Loose

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Posted 01 June 2008 - 10:06 PM

Well, I would've said it the polite way "Please Change Channels". If that fails after a while, I would've asked him to "cc plz". It might sound rude, but a lot of people understand it.

But Spanish is my native language, I would've asked him to "cambia canaI, porfas".

#6 FlameChocobo

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Posted 01 June 2008 - 10:32 PM

The only language I can speak is English. If people speak different language than I do, that makes me angry.

I think that's enough about asking someone to change channels. I might ask again. Do I have to report someone before taking a screenshot?

#7 AgonyMan

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Posted 01 June 2008 - 11:23 PM

I think his claim of not being able to understand you is ersatz.

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Posted 02 June 2008 - 12:10 AM

QUOTE (FlameChocobo @ Jun 1 2008, 11:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The only language I can speak is English. If people speak different language than I do, that makes me angry.

I think that's enough about asking someone to change channels. I might ask again. Do I have to report someone before taking a screenshot?


"ccplz" reminds me of one of those people who are too lazy to type correctly.

No offense, but I think it's a little mean that you get mad at people who don't speak English.

#9 Masamune

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Posted 02 June 2008 - 12:26 AM

Yeah, that's a bit weird. Getting angry at someone because they don't speak English, unless they're clearly using it as a crutch to ignore you. But since this is online, you really don't know if he was or not, unless you track him and such.

#10 FlameChocobo

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Posted 02 June 2008 - 02:19 AM

It's a little bit racist if I get angry at people that speak different language. Let's say you're the first one training in the area. You try to train to level up, then someone appears in the area to KS you. You ask him/her "Could you please change channels?" then he/she says that he doesn't speak English in the different language and moves on to different language. Either people that are from a different country don't understand English, or use it as an excuse to ignore you and continue on KSing you.

Enough with the "Change Channel please" and "Language" conversation. I'm moving on to "MapleNoobs newbie question"

#11 Chikiiro

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Posted 02 June 2008 - 09:26 PM

QUOTE (Loose @ Jun 1 2008, 05:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, I would've said it the polite way "Please Change Channels". If that fails after a while, I would've asked him to "cc plz". It might sound rude, but a lot of people understand it.

But Spanish is my native language, I would've asked him to "cambia canaI, porfas".


I would've told him to "handa freir monos al africa!". smile.gif

QUOTE (FlameChocobo @ Jun 1 2008, 05:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The only language I can speak is English. If people speak different language than I do, that makes me angry.


Which is why you need a list of swear words in many different languages so you can just whip em out and the person should understand. tongue.gif

#12 Loose

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Posted 02 June 2008 - 09:51 PM

QUOTE (Chikiiro @ Jun 2 2008, 02:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I would've told him to "handa freir monos al africa!". smile.gif

That might work too, "Go fry monkeys in Africa!".

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Posted 02 June 2008 - 10:23 PM

Mm..

"cc plz" is known universally on MS. If they don't speak English, it's your last resort.

#14 FlameChocobo

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Posted 02 June 2008 - 10:50 PM

Enough of that! I still have a question that needs to be answered.

Do I have to report them first before taking a Screen Shot? Also, the Screen shot I took is not edited. You do have to rename the screen shot the name of the offender (Which I didn't do because I didn't read the guidlines carefully enough). The screen shot has to be in JPEG I think.

@Chikiiro: It will not work for me, as it is nasty to swear at.

#15 AgonyMan

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Posted 02 June 2008 - 11:08 PM

I'm not sure that that screenshot is adequate proof of an offense. The map in which you were is a two player map and one could speculate that the two of you are just meeting in the middle at that time.

#16 Loose

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Posted 03 June 2008 - 01:12 AM

Well... all I see in that screenshot is two Warriors. One is saying he doesn't understand in Spanish. Maybe if you would've taken a screesnhot of the entire conversation it might've helped your case.

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Posted 03 June 2008 - 01:53 AM

I'd have to read Maple's ToS again, but as far as I know, KSing is not offending it.

#18 FlameChocobo

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Posted 07 June 2008 - 07:36 PM

Kill Stealing is a bannable offense to any other members. If someone appears to kill steal you, you ask them politely to "Change Channels," people that want to Kill Steal you train on the map you're training either vulgar bash you like "STFU," tell you to "ccplz" and claim that they were AFK or repotting/recharging, or speak different language you do not know. You tell them either you were here first or they lost a map to you. Kill Stealing is classed as Harassment, just like Mass Defaming. If they refuse to stop Kill Stealing you, simply report them and hope that they'll be banned eventually. English is my only language I fully/perfectly speak.

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Posted 08 June 2008 - 03:20 AM

QUOTE (MaakuWiz @ Jun 2 2008, 06:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'd have to read Maple's ToS again, but as far as I know, KSing is not offending it.

User Abuse Policy, kill-stealing is under Misconduct.




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